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The two are pretty entangled, honestly. When I think about the facts, I get mad at obvious shit I missed, and then I get mad I can't look into it further because nine hours, and then I get mad about Tuuri.
[ he makes a little twiling motion with his finger. ]
World's shittiest feedback loop.
[ he makes a little twiling motion with his finger. ]
World's shittiest feedback loop.
Mm.
[ yeah. shit is bad. ]
To be fair to you - or, at least, it's what I've been telling myself, anyway - Every other time we've had a case where someone's memory of the night was hazy, even if they didn't want to do it, and it was an accident, it had been a guilty case. I stopped looking, too.
[ they all did. and that adds to that awful little feedback loop. bixing sounds tired, too, unhappy. ] Ultimately, she was just as much of a victim in this as Kon was; the entire thing was a nightmare.
[ yeah. shit is bad. ]
To be fair to you - or, at least, it's what I've been telling myself, anyway - Every other time we've had a case where someone's memory of the night was hazy, even if they didn't want to do it, and it was an accident, it had been a guilty case. I stopped looking, too.
[ they all did. and that adds to that awful little feedback loop. bixing sounds tired, too, unhappy. ] Ultimately, she was just as much of a victim in this as Kon was; the entire thing was a nightmare.
Basically -- we got complacent.
[ it's not accusatory just... factual. they were used to someone having a hazy memory and being guilty, not... a hazy memory and being innocent. ]
Kon was probably dead by the time Tuuri "became aware of herself". If she struck a killing blow, she'd have been classed as guilty.
[ it's not accusatory just... factual. they were used to someone having a hazy memory and being guilty, not... a hazy memory and being innocent. ]
Kon was probably dead by the time Tuuri "became aware of herself". If she struck a killing blow, she'd have been classed as guilty.
I don't think that's true.
[ not the complacency bit, but the other part. he pinches the bridge of his nose. ]
Our only other suspect would have been whoever was in that photo, on the other side of the glass - and Kon took that picture from the ground, where it was already wobbly and blurry, indicating he was probably already injured. Unless that person came inside, shoved Tuuri off, stabbed him, and then let her continue to stab him afterwards - handed her the knife after he'd done it, I think she did place the killing blow.
[ not the complacency bit, but the other part. he pinches the bridge of his nose. ]
Our only other suspect would have been whoever was in that photo, on the other side of the glass - and Kon took that picture from the ground, where it was already wobbly and blurry, indicating he was probably already injured. Unless that person came inside, shoved Tuuri off, stabbed him, and then let her continue to stab him afterwards - handed her the knife after he'd done it, I think she did place the killing blow.
Edited 2023-03-19 22:07 (UTC)
Then why did it come up as "not guilty" for her, then? If she placed the killing blow, that would be enough to prove her guilty.
[ ... ]
You don't have to be in the room with someone to kill them.
The deception in all this came from making Tuuri really believe she did this. Neither us, nor her, know what happened between her lashing out at Kon in the ice cream parlour, and her over his body in the biome. That's a massive window of opportunity for the culprit to do literally anything.
[ ... ]
You don't have to be in the room with someone to kill them.
The deception in all this came from making Tuuri really believe she did this. Neither us, nor her, know what happened between her lashing out at Kon in the ice cream parlour, and her over his body in the biome. That's a massive window of opportunity for the culprit to do literally anything.
That would be enough according to precedent. And like you just said - we got complacent in thinking that would be enough.
[ the rules here seem a little bit wiggly, to be honest. typical hell. ]
The way she described it made it sound like she wasn't in control of her actions at all, so. Maybe someone was puppeting her, though I cannot begin to imagine how.
[ the rules here seem a little bit wiggly, to be honest. typical hell. ]
The way she described it made it sound like she wasn't in control of her actions at all, so. Maybe someone was puppeting her, though I cannot begin to imagine how.
We don't really know if that's how it was for everyone though -- Lavi, and Uriel... neither of them would've killed the person they did without something influencing them. But we don't know everything about how it works.
[ ... ]
The only things I can think of are either the culprit rigged something else up to kill Kon, but make Tuuri think she did it-- there's the white powder, which we still don't know much about. Or, if you're right about her landing the killing blow, the culprit might've thought that'd be enough to cover all of their tracks. Even down to who was found guilty.
[ ... they have all been pretty overconfident this week. in everything. ]
Like one of those debates, y'know? Someone sets up a death trap, but someone else presses the button to trigger it. Who counts as the killer?
[ ... ]
The only things I can think of are either the culprit rigged something else up to kill Kon, but make Tuuri think she did it-- there's the white powder, which we still don't know much about. Or, if you're right about her landing the killing blow, the culprit might've thought that'd be enough to cover all of their tracks. Even down to who was found guilty.
[ ... they have all been pretty overconfident this week. in everything. ]
Like one of those debates, y'know? Someone sets up a death trap, but someone else presses the button to trigger it. Who counts as the killer?
That's exactly what I'm saying. We don't know if that's how it was for everyone.
[ he sighs, dropping his hands away from his face and folding them on the desk. ]
That's a good analogy, I think. I don't know. It swept the rug from under me, to say the least.
[ he sighs, dropping his hands away from his face and folding them on the desk. ]
That's a good analogy, I think. I don't know. It swept the rug from under me, to say the least.
[ after a moment, date just drops the book back over his face again. ]
Ow.
[ a bit too hard. ]
... I think I have a headache.
Ow.
[ a bit too hard. ]
... I think I have a headache.
[ JUST IMMEDIATELY SITTING UP ]
Oh shit, do you have some?
Oh shit, do you have some?
[ hey! this void has alcohol, and date is well on his way to drinking a bunch of it. ]
Should you be anywhere other than in bed, resting?
Should you be anywhere other than in bed, resting?
[ at least he's sitting! ]
You plummeted off a clif top, I think you should give it a try.
You plummeted off a clif top, I think you should give it a try.
How, exactly, did you think you were going to do that?
[ it's a little flat. he's not... mad at lbx or anything, just-- apologising? what if'ing? that's not going to work here. ]
We weren't supposed to be stopping that situation, just living through it. [ ... ] Although I guess if I'd actually shot him, I'd be apologising to you anyway. So... I get it.
[ it's a little flat. he's not... mad at lbx or anything, just-- apologising? what if'ing? that's not going to work here. ]
We weren't supposed to be stopping that situation, just living through it. [ ... ] Although I guess if I'd actually shot him, I'd be apologising to you anyway. So... I get it.
[ lmao living through it,
he flinches a little bit, though whether it's at the bit about living or about shooting jingheng, it's not obvious. ...admittedly, he laughs a little, though, even if it hurts. ]
...He's the kind of person... who gets guns pointed him a lot. [ ... ] Thank you... for hesitating.
he flinches a little bit, though whether it's at the bit about living or about shooting jingheng, it's not obvious. ...admittedly, he laughs a little, though, even if it hurts. ]
...He's the kind of person... who gets guns pointed him a lot. [ ... ] Thank you... for hesitating.
[ sweats and replies ]
... I would've done, but... y'know. You told me how much losing him would break you if you went through it again.
[ it's not like... a heroic thing to have done. not shooting a guy. even though it would've been easy -- so easy, worryingly easy, now he thinks about it. to kill a fake person for a fake person that mattered more to him.
he doesn't like that. ]
I'm not sure that deserves a thank you.
... I would've done, but... y'know. You told me how much losing him would break you if you went through it again.
[ it's not like... a heroic thing to have done. not shooting a guy. even though it would've been easy -- so easy, worryingly easy, now he thinks about it. to kill a fake person for a fake person that mattered more to him.
he doesn't like that. ]
I'm not sure that deserves a thank you.
[ bixing's quiet for a moment, looking down at his hands, at his arms, knowing the slight sting of the scratch mark on the inside of his left like a reminder.
he says, soft: ]
...It did. [ break him. he doesn't know how much date saw, really. in a tunnel of his own grief, he'd just... ] ...and it does. [ deserve a thank you. ]
he says, soft: ]
...It did. [ break him. he doesn't know how much date saw, really. in a tunnel of his own grief, he'd just... ] ...and it does. [ deserve a thank you. ]
Yeah. I heard.
[ .... it didn't really do them any good. pulling the trigger, not pulling the trigger. the outcome was the same. ]
But... okay. You're welcome. Whatever that's worth.
[ .... it didn't really do them any good. pulling the trigger, not pulling the trigger. the outcome was the same. ]
But... okay. You're welcome. Whatever that's worth.
[ ......
after a moment, he nods. ]
I wasn't near enough to intervene, but I had sights on the cliff.
after a moment, he nods. ]
I wasn't near enough to intervene, but I had sights on the cliff.
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